Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby

From: "Drouvot, Bertrand" <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Ajin Cherian <itsajin(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby
Date: 2023-09-27 09:43:46
Message-ID: a539e247-30c8-4d5c-b561-07d0949cc960@gmail.com
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Hi,

On 9/19/23 6:50 AM, shveta malik wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:19 PM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 4:54 PM shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>> PFA v17. It has below changes:
>>>
>>
>> @@ -2498,6 +2500,13 @@ ReorderBufferProcessTXN(ReorderBuffer *rb,
>> ReorderBufferTXN *txn,
>> }
>> else
>> {
>> + /*
>> + * Before we send out the last set of changes to logical decoding
>> + * output plugin, wait for specified streaming replication standby
>> + * servers (if any) to confirm receipt of WAL upto commit_lsn.
>> + */
>> + WaitForStandbyLSN(commit_lsn);
>>
>> It seems the first patch has a wait logic for every commit. I think it
>> is better to integrate this wait with WalSndWaitForWal() as suggested
>> by Andres in his email[1].
>>
>> [1] - https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20220207204557.74mgbhowydjco4mh%40alap3.anarazel.de
>>
>> --
>
> Sure Amit. PFA v18. It addresses below:
>
> 1) patch001: wait for physical-standby confirmation logic is now
> integrated with WalSndWaitForWal(). Now walsender waits for physical
> standby's confirmation to take changes upto RecentFlushPtr in
> WalSndWaitForWal(). This allows walsender to send the changes to
> logical subscribers one by one which are already covered in
> RecentFlushPtr without needing to wait on every commit for physical
> standby confirmation.

+ /* XXX: Is waiting for 1 second before retrying enough or more or less? */
+ (void) WaitLatch(MyLatch,
+ WL_LATCH_SET | WL_TIMEOUT | WL_EXIT_ON_PM_DEATH,
+ 1000L,
+ WAIT_EVENT_WAL_SENDER_WAIT_FOR_STANDBY_CONFIRMATION);

I think it would be better to let the physical walsender(s) wake up those logical
walsender(s) (instead of waiting for 1 sec or such). Maybe we could introduce a new CV that would
broadcast in PhysicalConfirmReceivedLocation() when restart_lsn is changed, what do you think?

Still regarding preventing the logical replication to go ahead of
physical replication standbys specified in standby_slot_names: we currently don't impose this
limitation to pg_logical_slot_get_changes and friends (that don't start a dedicated walsender).

Shouldn't we also prevent them to go ahead of physical replication standbys specified in standby_slot_names?

Regards,

--
Bertrand Drouvot
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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