| From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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| To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, exclusion(at)gmail(dot)com, dean(dot)a(dot)rasheed(at)gmail(dot)com, andrewbille(at)gmail(dot)com, peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: cataloguing NOT NULL constraints |
| Date: | 2024-05-15 01:34:00 |
| Message-ID: | ZkQRCO3sSMPdqmyF@momjian.us |
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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 09:00:28AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> > Specifically, the problem is that I mentioned that we could restrict the
> > NOT NULL NO INHERIT addition in pg_dump for primary keys to occur only
> > in pg_upgrade; but it turns this is not correct. In normal
> > dump/restore, there's an additional table scan to check for nulls when
> > the constraints is not there, so the PK creation would become measurably
> > slower. (In a table with a million single-int rows, PK creation goes
> > from 2000ms to 2300ms due to the second scan to check for nulls).
>
> I have a feeling that any theory of the form "X only needs to happen
> during pg_upgrade" is likely to be wrong. pg_upgrade isn't really
> doing anything especially unusual: just creating some objects and
> loading data. Those things can also be done at other times, so
> whatever is needed during pg_upgrade is also likely to be needed at
> other times. Maybe that's not sound reasoning for some reason or
> other, but that's my intuition.
I assume Alvaro is saying that pg_upgrade has only a single session,
which is unique and might make things easier for him.
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