Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net>
Cc: Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 17 Release Management Team & Feature Freeze
Date: 2024-04-09 21:16:27
Message-ID: ZhWwKz3CRDkHr3jc@momjian.us
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 10:41:17AM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> Unfortunately many humans are hardwired towards procrastination and
> last minute heroics (it's one reason why deadline driven development
> works even though in the long run it tends to be bad practice), and
> historically was one of the driving factors in why we started doing
> commitfests in the first place (you should have seen the mad dash of
> commits before we had that process), so ISTM that it's not completely
> avoidable...
>
> That said, are you suggesting that the feature freeze deadline be
> random, and also held in secret by the RMT, only to be announced after
> the freeze time has passed? This feels weird, but might apply enough
> deadline related pressure while avoiding last minute shenanigans.

Committing code is a hard job, no question. However, committers have to
give up the idea that they should wait for brilliant ideas before
finalizing patches. If you come up with a better idea later, great, but
don't wait to finalize patches.

I used to write college papers much too late because I expected some
brilliant idea to come to me, and it rarely happened. I learned to
write the paper with the ideas I had, and if I come up with a better
idea later, I can add it to the end.

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