From: | Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Introduce XID age and inactive timeout based replication slot invalidation |
Date: | 2024-03-19 12:42:21 |
Message-ID: | ZfmILcf647uXuCUJ@ip-10-97-1-34.eu-west-3.compute.internal |
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Hi,
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 04:20:35PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 3:11 PM Bertrand Drouvot
> <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:56:25AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 8:19 PM Bertrand Drouvot
> > > <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > Agree. While it makes sense to invalidate slots for wal removal in
> > > > CreateCheckPoint() (because this is the place where wal is removed), I 'm not
> > > > sure this is the right place for the 2 new cases.
> > > >
> > > > Let's focus on the timeout one as proposed above (as probably the simplest one):
> > > > as this one is purely related to time and activity what about to invalidate them
> > > > when?:
> > > >
> > > > - their usage resume
> > > > - in pg_get_replication_slots()
> > > >
> > > > The idea is to invalidate the slot when one resumes activity on it or wants to
> > > > get information about it (and among other things wants to know if the slot is
> > > > valid or not).
> > > >
> > >
> > > Trying to invalidate at those two places makes sense to me but we
> > > still need to cover the cases where it takes very long to resume the
> > > slot activity and the dangling slot cases where the activity is never
> > > resumed.
> >
> > I understand it's better to have the slot reflecting its real status internally
> > but it is a real issue if that's not the case until the activity on it is resumed?
> > (just asking, not saying we should not)
> >
>
> Sorry, I didn't understand your point. Can you try to explain by example?
Sorry if that was not clear, let me try to rephrase it first: what issue to you
see if the invalidation of such a slot occurs only when its usage resume or
when pg_get_replication_slots() is triggered? I understand that this could lead
to the slot not being invalidated (maybe forever) but is that an issue for an
inactive slot?
Regards,
--
Bertrand Drouvot
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
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