From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] psql casts aspersions on server reliability |
Date: | 2023-11-23 16:12:30 |
Message-ID: | ZV957kbJfJ4BiTKU@momjian.us |
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On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:25:14PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 07:38:52PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
> > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 09:14:41AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > >> I could go along with just dropping the last sentence ("This probably...")
> > >> if the last error we got was FATAL level. I don't find "unexpectedly"
> > >> to be problematic here: from the point of view of psql, and probably
> > >> of its user, the shutdown *was* unexpected.
> >
> > > I looked at this thread from 2016 and I think the problem is the
> > > "abnormally" word, since if the server was shutdown by the administrator
> > > (most likely), it isn't abnormal. Here is a patch to remove
> > > "abnormally".
> >
> > I do not think this is an improvement. The places you are changing
> > are reacting to a connection closure. *If* we had previously gotten a
> > "FATAL: terminating connection due to administrator command" message,
> > then yeah the connection closure is expected; but if not, it isn't.
> > Your patch adds no check for that. (As I remarked in 2016, we could
> > probably condition this on the elevel being FATAL, rather than
> > checking for specific error messages.)
>
> Yes, you are correct. Here is a patch that implements the FATAL test,
> though I am not sure I have the logic correct or backwards, and I don't
> know how to test this. Thanks.
I developed the attached patch which seems to work better. In testing
kill -3 on a backend or calling elog(FATAL) in the server for a
session, libpq's 'res' is NULL, meaning we don't have any status to
check for PGRES_FATAL_ERROR. It is very possible that libpq just isn't
stuctured to have the PGRES_FATAL_ERROR at the point where we issue this
message, and this is not worth improving.
test=> select pg_sleep(100);
--> FATAL: FATAL called
server closed the connection unexpectedly
--> This probably means the server terminated null
before or while processing the request.
The connection to the server was lost. Attempting reset: Succeeded.
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