From: | Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com> |
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To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Cc: | Jacob Champion <jchampion(at)timescale(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, gkokolatos(at)pm(dot)me, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dipesh Pandit <dipesh(dot)pandit(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>, Mark Dilger <mark(dot)dilger(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: zstd compression for pg_dump |
Date: | 2023-03-31 23:16:31 |
Message-ID: | ZCdpzywVGl0BLan2@telsasoft.com |
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On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 06:23:26PM +0200, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> On 3/27/23 19:28, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 03:43:31AM +0100, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> >> On 3/16/23 05:50, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:48:13PM -0800, Jacob Champion wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 10:59 AM Jacob Champion <jchampion(at)timescale(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>>> I did some smoke testing against zstd's GitHub release on Windows. To
> >>>>> build against it, I had to construct an import library, and put that
> >>>>> and the DLL into the `lib` folder expected by the MSVC scripts...
> >>>>> which makes me wonder if I've chosen a harder way than necessary?
> >>>>
> >>>> It looks like pg_dump's meson.build is missing dependencies on zstd
> >>>> (meson couldn't find the headers in the subproject without them).
> >>>
> >>> I saw that this was added for LZ4, but I hadn't added it for zstd since
> >>> I didn't run into an issue without it. Could you check that what I've
> >>> added works for your case ?
> >>>
> >>>>> Parallel zstd dumps seem to work as expected, in that the resulting
> >>>>> pg_restore output is identical to uncompressed dumps and nothing
> >>>>> explodes. I haven't inspected the threading implementation for safety
> >>>>> yet, as you mentioned.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hm. Best I can tell, the CloneArchive() machinery is supposed to be
> >>>> handling safety for this, by isolating each thread's state. I don't feel
> >>>> comfortable pronouncing this new addition safe or not, because I'm not
> >>>> sure I understand what the comments in the format-specific _Clone()
> >>>> callbacks are saying yet.
> >>>
> >>> My line of reasoning for unix is that pg_dump forks before any calls to
> >>> zstd. Nothing zstd does ought to affect the pg_dump layer. But that
> >>> doesn't apply to pg_dump under windows. This is an opened question. If
> >>> there's no solid answer, I could disable/ignore the option (maybe only
> >>> under windows).
> >>
> >> I may be missing something, but why would the patch affect this? Why
> >> would it even affect safety of the parallel dump? And I don't see any
> >> changes to the clone stuff ...
> >
> > zstd supports using threads during compression, with -Z zstd:workers=N.
> > When unix forks, the child processes can't do anything to mess up the
> > state of the parent processes.
> >
> > But windows pg_dump uses threads instead of forking, so it seems
> > possible that the pg_dump -j threads that then spawn zstd threads could
> > "leak threads" and break the main thread. I suspect there's no issue,
> > but we still ought to verify that before declaring it safe.
>
> OK. I don't have access to a Windows machine so I can't test that. Is it
> possible to disable the zstd threading, until we figure this out?
I think that's what's best. I made it issue a warning if "workers" was
specified. It could also be an error, or just ignored.
I considered disabling workers only for windows, but realized that I
haven't tested with threads myself - my local zstd package is compiled
without threading, and I remember having some issue recompiling it with
threading. Jacob's recipe for using meson wraps works well, but it
still seems better to leave it as a future feature. I used that recipe
to enabled zstd with threading on CI (except for linux/autoconf).
> >>> The function is first checking if it was passed a filename which already
> >>> has a suffix. And if not, it searches through a list of suffixes,
> >>> testing for an existing file with each suffix. The search with stat()
> >>> doesn't happen if it has a suffix. I'm having trouble seeing how the
> >>> hasSuffix() branch isn't dead code. Another opened question.
> >>
> >> AFAICS it's done this way because of this comment in pg_backup_directory
> >>
> >> * ...
> >> * ".gz" suffix is added to the filenames. The TOC files are never
> >> * compressed by pg_dump, however they are accepted with the .gz suffix
> >> * too, in case the user has manually compressed them with 'gzip'.
> >>
> >> I haven't tried, but I believe that if you manually compress the
> >> directory, it may hit this branch.
> >
> > That would make sense, but when I tried, it didn't work like that.
> > The filenames were all uncompressed names. Maybe it worked differently
> > in an older release. Or maybe it changed during development of the
> > parallel-directory-dump patch and it's actually dead code.
>
> Interesting. Would be good to find out. I wonder if a little bit of
> git-log digging could tell us more. Anyway, until we confirm it's dead
> code, we should probably do what .gz does and have the same check for
> .lz4 and .zst files.
I found that hasSuffix() and cfopen() originated in the refactored patch
Heikki's sent here; there's no history beyond that.
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/4D3954C7.9060503%40enterprisedb.com
The patch published there appends the .gz within cfopen(), and the
caller writes into the TOC the filename without ".gz". It seems like
maybe a few hours prior, Heikki may have been appending the ".gz" suffix
in the caller, and then writing the TOC with filename.gz.
The only way I've been able to get a "filename.gz" passed to hasSuffix
is to write a directory-format dump, with LOs, and without compression,
and then compress the blobs with "gzip", and *also* edit the blobs.toc
file to say ".gz" (which isn't necessary since, if the original file
isn't found, the restore would search for files with compressed
suffixes).
So .. it's not *technically* unreachable, but I can't see why it'd be
useful to support editing the *content* of the blob TOC (other than
compressing it). I might give some weight to the idea if it were also
possible to edit the non-blob TOC; but, it's a binary file, so no.
For now, I made the change to make zstd and lz4 to behave the same here
as .gz, unless Heikki has a memory or a git reflog going back far enough
to further support the idea that the code path isn't useful.
I'm going to set the patch as RFC as a hint to anyone who would want to
make a final review.
--
Justin
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