Re: PATCH: warn about, and deprecate, clear text passwords

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Greg Sabino Mullane <htamfids(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Isaac Morland <isaac(dot)morland(at)gmail(dot)com>, Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander(at)timescale(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: warn about, and deprecate, clear text passwords
Date: 2025-03-19 13:53:27
Message-ID: Z9rMV0pGwCtOQI4E@momjian.us
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 09:24:19AM -0400, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
> I'm a little confused at some of the pushback - this patch is 100% backwards
> compatible, addresses a specific requested concern by allowing a DBA to
> disallow clear text passwords, and adds a warning to what is clearly a bad
> practice that we should be discouraging.
>
> Robert - would you be more inclined to accept this if we kept the three states,
> but made the default "allow"? That would still allow people to bump it stronger
> manually, but would have no effect on everyone else. That would give us time to
> tweak the wording and/or examine other approaches. Although any other
> approaches would still leave the need to do something with passwords via ALTER
> USER / CREATE USER in the interim.

You are getting pushback because this complex user change is still being
debated in mid-March, when the feature freeze is only a few weeks away.

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