From: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> |
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To: | Cédric Villemain <Cedric(dot)Villemain(at)data-bene(dot)io> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: WAL-logging facility for pgstats kinds |
Date: | 2025-02-16 23:27:46 |
Message-ID: | Z7J0ck1q3Lk_x9k7@paquier.xyz |
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On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 10:31:33AM +0100, Cédric Villemain wrote:
> Additionally, there is significant potential for external applications to
> leverage the PostgreSQL stats system to collect metrics instead of relying
> on relational tables, promising a highly efficient solution. In such cases,
> providing a mechanism to replicate this information could be very beneficial
> for end-users.
Hmm. You mean with the extra addition of a hook around
pgstat[_shmem].c so as it would be possible to take some custom action
when pushing the stats to the pgstats dshash or for the fixed-numbered
stats?
> Though I also support Andres' position to avoid abusing WAL in this context,
> I am slightly more flexible: this exception would apply only if there is a
> clear separation between stats essential for PostgreSQL (or its extensions)
> to function correctly during or after a switchover, and those (stats or)
> metrics that are irrelevant to PostgreSQL itself.
All these parts are doable even today outside of core with a custom
RMGR, so it's not like there are no solutions in place. The
introduction of a pgstats callback that can attached to a stats kind
is able to enforce a stricter rule in the backend, at least, without
the need to consume a bunch of RMGR IDs for that. (It is possible to
have one RMGR used across many extensions, clumsy but doable.)
--
Michael
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