Re: Initial ugly reverse-translator

From: Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Craig Ringer <craig(at)postnewspapers(dot)com(dot)au>, PgSQL General ML <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Initial ugly reverse-translator
Date: 2008-04-19 17:10:38
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.64.0804192110060.21547@sn.sai.msu.ru
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, Tom Lane wrote:

> Craig Ringer <craig(at)postnewspapers(dot)com(dot)au> writes:
>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> I don't really see the problem. I assume from your reference to pg_trgm
>>> that you're using trigram similarity as the prefilter for potential
>>> matches
>
>> It turns out that's no good anyway, as it appears to ignore characters
>> outside the ASCII range. Rather less than useful for searching a
>> database of translated strings ;-)
>
> A quick look at the pg_trgm code suggests that it is only prepared to
> deal with single-byte encodings; if you're working in UTF8, which I
> suppose you'd have to be, it's dead in the water :-(. Perhaps fixing
> that should be on the TODO list.

as well as ltree. they are in our todo list:
http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/wiki/TODO

>
> But in any case maybe the full-text-search stuff would be more useful
> as a prefilter? Although honestly, for the speed we need here, I'm
> not sure a prefilter is needed at all. Full text might be useful
> if a LIKE-based match fails, though.
>
>>> (And besides, speed doesn't seem like the be-all and end-all here.)
>
>> True. It's not so much the speed as the fragility when faced with small
>> changes to formatting. In addition to whitespace, some clients mangle
>> punctuation with features like automatic "curly"-quoting.
>
> Yeah. I was wondering whether encoding differences wouldn't be a huge
> problem in practice, as well.
>
> regards, tom lane
>
>

Regards,
Oleg
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