| From: | "scott(dot)marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com> |
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| To: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, <lutzeb(at)aeccom(dot)com>, <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wierd context-switching issue on Xeon |
| Date: | 2004-04-19 20:12:32 |
| Message-ID: | Pine.LNX.4.33.0404191410550.17372-100000@css120.ihs.com |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Tom,
> >
> > > So in the short term I think we have to tell people that Xeon MP is not
> > > the most desirable SMP platform to run Postgres on. (Josh thinks that
> > > the specific motherboard chipset being used in these machines might
> > > share some of the blame too. I don't have any evidence for or against
> > > that idea, but it's certainly possible.)
> >
> > I have 3 reasons for thinking this:
> > 1) the ServerWorks chipset is present in the fully documented cases that we
> > have of this problem so far. This is notable becuase the SW is notorious
> > for poor manufacturing quality, so much so that the company that made them is
> > currently in receivership. These chips were so bad that Dell was forced to
> > recall several hundred of it's 2650's, where the motherboards caught fire!
> > 2) the main defect of the SW is the NorthBridge, which could conceivably
> > adversely affect traffic between RAM and the processor cache.
> > 3) XeonMP is a very popular platform thanks to Dell, and we are not seeing
> > more problem reports than we are.
> >
> > The other thing I'd like your comment on, Tom, is that Dirk appears to have
> > reported that when he installed a non-bigmem kernel, the issue went away.
>
> I have BSD on a SuperMicro dual Xeon, so if folks want another
> hardware/OS combination to test, I can give out logins to my machine.
I can probably do some nighttime testing on a dual 2800MHz non-MP Xeon
machine as well. It's a Dell 2600 series machine and very fast. It has
the moderately fast 533MHz FSB so may not have as many problems as the MP
type CPUs seem to be having.
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