Re: Two weeks to feature freeze

From: "scott(dot)marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Two weeks to feature freeze
Date: 2003-06-23 19:27:40
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.33.0306231325510.24557-100000@css120.ihs.com
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian writes:
> >
> > > Well, it is a nice test template for people who aren't shell script
> > > experts, and I have been in the habit of pushing stuff I use into /tools
> > > so it is available for others.
> >
> > I know and I'm not happy about it. The PostgreSQL source tree isn't a
> > repository of everyone's favorite shell scripts. There's an official
> > method to build and test a PostgreSQL installation. If that is flawed or
> > incomplete, then let's talk about it. But everyone pushing out their own
> > little test methodology without further consideration is not going to help
> > this discussion.
>
> I put stuff in /tools so if something happens to me, you guys can keep
> going. Do I have to be clearer that that? I have RELEASE_CHANGES,
> which Tom used for 7.3.X releases, pgindent, stuff for finding
> missing/extraneous includes, static requirements, stuff like that.
>
> Unless you can find someone else who agrees with you, it stays.

Peter is coming off awfully paternalistic here. I'd rather have a few
extra scripts to look through to find what I need when I'm trying to
figure out something than to have a tool that only the hackers know exists
and I can only get by asking nicely to see the pretty code.

While no one wants to see a contrib or tool directory of a hundred megs,
lots of little example files and testing scripts can be nice for nothing
else other than the examples they provide. I learned a lot when I first
started using pgsql from the things in the contrib directory.

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