Re: trouble with (lack of) indexing

From: "Nigel J(dot) Andrews" <nandrews(at)investsystems(dot)co(dot)uk>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Søren Boll Overgaard <postgres(at)fork(dot)dk>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: trouble with (lack of) indexing
Date: 2002-05-10 00:07:18
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.21.0205100057490.2371-100000@ponder.fairway2k.co.uk
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On Thu, 9 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote:

> =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Boll Overgaard <postgres(at)fork(dot)dk> writes:
> > explain SELECT ht.id,hq.ip,hq.id FROM
> > hostsqueue as hq,hoststests as ht WHERE ht.hostsqueue_id=hq.id;
> > NOTICE: QUERY PLAN:
>
> > Hash Join (cost=776.05..2904.36 rows=84 width=24)
> > -> Seq Scan on hoststests ht (cost=0.00..2126.84 rows=84 width=8)
> > -> Hash (cost=776.04..776.04 rows=4 width=16)
> > -> Seq Scan on hostsqueue hq (cost=0.00..776.04 rows=4 width=16)
>
>
> If there's only 84 rows it's hardly going to matter which plan we choose
> ;-). Please show us the results from the production database, not the
> toy-sized tables.

The original post had it, but presumably not from the most recent analyze:

[quote]

This however is on the production database:
--------------8<-----------

=> explain SELECT ht.id,
-> hq.ip,
-> hq.id
-> FROM hostsqueue as hq,
-> hoststests as ht
-> WHERE ht.hostsqueue_id=hq.id;
NOTICE: QUERY PLAN:

Merge Join (cost=134514.31..136541.15 rows=129756 width=44)
-> Sort (cost=76196.94..76196.94 rows=32200 width=36)
-> Seq Scan on hostsqueue hq (cost=0.00..73786.00 rows=32200 width=36)
-> Sort (cost=58317.37..58317.37 rows=129756 width=8)
-> Seq Scan on hoststests ht (cost=0.00..47297.56 rows=129756 width=8)

EXPLAIN
=>
[/end quote]

It's quote a result set. I wouldn't want to be paging/scrolling through that
lot.

> If you have 7.2 then EXPLAIN ANALYZE is much more useful to show than
> plain EXPLAIN. Also, you could try doing "SET enable_seqscan = off"
> and see how the plan changes.

Would it be worth changing the explain output to include the stats., or a
summary of them, used by the plan? Does the 10% rule still apply? If so it
might be a nice addition to show the total number of rows expected in the table
so that a quick 'eyeball' can confirm that is why a seqscan is being
performed. Or am I just barking up a dead horse here since I'm now thinking it
might be nice to include information about potential indexes and at what row
count from them it's decided a seqscan is better.

--
Nigel J. Andrews
Director

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Logictree Systems Limited
Computer Consultants

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