From: | "Dominic J(dot) Eidson" <sauron(at)the-infinite(dot)org> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Patch to include PAM support... |
Date: | 2001-06-12 17:19:59 |
Message-ID: | Pine.LNX.4.21.0106121211420.6822-100000@morannon.the-infinite.org |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us> writes:
> > > I know there was concerns about blocking but is that problem any more so
> > > than other interfaces we already support?
> >
> > We don't need to make it worse. We've already had trouble reports about
> > postmaster hangups with broken IDENT servers; PAM will hugely expand the
> > scope of potential troubles. Can you say "denial of service"?
>
> Does it really? You are saying PAM can make "denial of service" attacks
> even easier than ident?
If anything, then "possibly as easy as ident" - but that's a worst case
scenario. And the reason for that is because they both potentially use
outside server/services. PAM doesn't _have_ to authenticate into external
devices, the LDAP example is just an example from my/our situation. You
could use PAM to authenticate into the local system password file, and/or
use it to create user limits (Only 3 connections per user, as example..)
> If it is the same risk, I think it is OK, but if it is worse, I see your
> point. (I don't know much about PAM except it allows authentication.)
My apologies if PAM has somehow been equated to "remote server
authentication piece" - there is a lot more to PAM than the abillity to
easily do remote authentication.
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/whatispam.html
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/FAQ
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Dominic J. Eidson
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