Re: responses to licensing discussion

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Tom Lane wrote:

> The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org> writes:
> > On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Gilles DAROLD wrote:
> >> Is PostgreSQL Inc. have the same need than Landmark/Great Bridge
> >> concerning this licence migration ?
>
> > Nope ... this is purely a perceived problem by the Landmark/Great Bridge
> > folk ... one that I can't count how many OSS projects out there
> > don't/haven't felt a need for *shrug*
>
> Au contraire --- we have had repeated discussions in the past about the
> license, and quite a few folks have expressed concern that we need to
> alter the pure Berkeley language we inherited. This particular proposal
> is from Great Bridge and has some stuff in it that was never proposed
> before, but please don't claim that there's not been any perceived
> problem. There has been.

Oops, sorry ... I *do* like the extra BOLD stuff, as I like the fact that
it extends the license to cover non-UNIVERSITY developers ... hadn't meant
to make it such an 'all-encompassing' statement ... as you state, there
are bits of it that I do like ...

But, I am also firmly of the opinion that if the BSD license "as is" was
such a big problem legal, projects like the *BSDs would have long changed
theirs ... the FreeBSD folks have their own 'retained legal counsel' that
they've been workign with through the whole cryptography debate, so I
don't think that they would have overlooked this if it was a problem ...

Personally, I'd like the whole thing weeded down to ... get rid of the
'juristiction of ...' (which nobody outside of the US will agree to, from
what I've been seeing on the list) ... and get rid of "Any person who
contributes ..." paragraph, which several ppl have voiced a concern about,
and we might have something that non-US developers can agree to ...

can someone also explain to me what ", NEED, OR QUALITY, AND ANY IMPLIED
WARRANTY FROM COURSE OF DEALING OR USAGE OF TRADE. IN ADDITION, THERE IS
NO IMPLIED WARRANTY AGAINST INTERFERENCE WITH ENJOYMENT OR AGAINST
INFRINGEMENT." is supposed to mean? what the hell is "INTERFERENCE WITH
ENJOYMENT OR AGAINST INFRINGEMENT"?

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