From: | Vince Vielhaber <vev(at)michvhf(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee>, The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>, "Sverre H(dot) Huseby" <sverrehu(at)online(dot)no>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: So we're in agreement.... |
Date: | 2000-05-07 17:21:54 |
Message-ID: | Pine.BSF.4.21.0005071321090.13987-100000@paprika.michvhf.com |
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On Sun, 7 May 2000, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <vev(at)michvhf(dot)com> writes:
> > It could add a level of security. The client knows the username. If
> > the client were to only send LOGIN or something like that to the server
> > without sending the username and the server only replied with the random
> > salt, the client would know that the username was the fixed salt and could
> > use that with random salt received from the server. So it's really a
> > hidden salt.
>
> Hidden from whom? The client *must* send the username to the server,
> so a sniffer who is able to see both sides of the conversation will
> still have all the same pieces. If the sniffer only sees one side of
> the conversation, he's still in trouble: he'll get the random salt, or
> the hashed password, but not both. So I still don't see what the
> username is adding to the process that will make up for rendering it
> much more difficult to rename users.
My intent was not to send the username, but let the server figure it
out by the response.
Vince.
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