| From: | The Hermit Hacker <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org> |
|---|---|
| To: | Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org> |
| Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: Re: First Major Open Source Database] |
| Date: | 2000-01-07 00:24:35 |
| Message-ID: | Pine.BSF.4.21.0001062024180.18498-100000@thelab.hub.org |
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Sounds good to me ...
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Lamar Owen wrote:
> [Ok, I've been in touch with the author of the 'First Major Open Source
> Database' article. Here's what he wants to do. Let me know what you
> think, and correct any misinformation I may have fed him.]
>
> --
> Lamar Owen
> WGCR Internet Radio
> 1 Peter 4:11
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Doc Searls <doc(at)searls(dot)com>
> Subject: Re: First Major Open Source Database
> To: Jason Kroll <hyena(at)ssc(dot)com>
> CC: mlr(at)ssc(dot)com, lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org
>
> To move this along quickly, I suggest this as a sidebar we can run as
> a table in the piece at
> http://www2.linuxjournal.com/articles/conversations/010.html ...
>
> ----------------
>
> Credit where due
>
> Since this interview went up, the response has been overwhelmingly
> positive. Some readers, however, have urged us to give full credit to
> the other open source databases that are already out there and have
> prior claims to the "major" label. The strongest urgings have come
> from PostgreSQL developers, who have provided us with some points and
> links that we are happy to pass along here.
>
> The points:
>
> - University Ingres, developed starting in 1977, qualifies for the
> 'First Major Open Source Database' honor. Ingres is the direct
> ancestor of PostgreSQL.
>
> - PostgreSQL is at version 6.5.3, and has been open source since the
> beginning. "The development is very open, the developers friendly,
> and the code is improving by leaps and bounds," writes Lamar Owen,
> RPM Package Maintainer with the PostgreSQL Global Development Group.
> He says "PostgreSQL has shipped with RedHat Linux as part of the
> 'Official Boxed Set' since RedHat 5.0." He also recommends comparing
> RDBMSes by the "ACID criteria." These are: "Atomicity, Consistency,
> Isolation, Durability."
>
> - Hacking database code is not lightweight work. "Kernel hacking is
> not a walk in the park, nor is GUI hacking, library hacking, or any
> other tool hacking," Owen says, "But, database hacking is a league
> unto itself....The learning curve for doing back-end database
> development is the steepest of any project of which I am aware."
>
> Here are two useful links:
>
> - The freshmeat.net appindex entry for databases
> <http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/daemons/database.html>
>
> - PostgreSQL.org's comparison chart <http://www.postgresql.org>
>
> Alert us to more and we'll put them here.
>
> -- Doc Searls
>
> -------------
>
> Here is the same thing, in HTML:
>
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
> <html>
>
> <head>
> <title>Credit Where Due</title>
> </head>
>
> <body>
> <h2>Credit where due</h2>
> <p>Since this interview went up, the response has
> been overwhelmingly positive. Some readers, however, have urged us to
> give full credit to the other open source databases that are already
> out there and have prior claims to the "major" label. The
> strongest urgings have come from PostgreSQL developers, who have
> provided us with some points and links that we are happy to pass
> along here.</p>
> <p>The points:</p>
> <p>— University Ingres, developed starting in
> 1977, qualifies for the 'First Major Open Source Database' honor.
> Ingres is the direct ancestor of PostgreSQL.</p>
> <p>— PostgreSQL is at version 6.5.3, and has
> been open source since the beginning. "The development is very
> open, the developers friendly, and the code is improving by leaps and
> bounds," writes Lamar Owen, RPM Package Maintainer with the
> PostgreSQL Global Development Group. He says "PostgreSQL has
> shipped with RedHat Linux as part of the 'Official Boxed Set' since
> RedHat 5.0." He also recommends comparing RDBMSes by the
> "ACID criteria." These are: "Atomicity, Consistency,
> Isolation, Durability."</p>
> <p>— Hacking database code is not lightweight
> work. "Kernel hacking is not a walk in the park, nor is GUI
> hacking, library hacking, or any other tool hacking," Owen says,
> "But, database hacking is a league unto itself....The learning
> curve for doing back-end database development is the steepest of any
> project of which I am aware."</p>
> <p>Here are two useful links:</p>
> <ul>
> <li><a
> href="http:/www.freshmeat.net/ppindex/aemons/atabase.html">The
> freshmeat.net appindex entry for databases</a>
> <li><a
> href="http:/www.postgresql.org">PostgreSQL.org's comparison chart</a>
> </ul>
> <p>Alert us to more and we'll put them here.</p>
> <p>— Doc Searls
> </body>
>
> </html>
>
>
>
> ----------
>
> Does that work? If so, let's get it up.
>
> Doc, in the basement of Moscone, in the surreal Macworld where Apple
> still, amazingly, lives.
>
> ----------
> Doc Searls
> Senior Editor, Linux Journal
> doc(at)ssc(dot)com
> http://www.linuxjournal.com
> Office: 544 Oak Park Way, Emerald Hills, CA 94062-4038
> Phone: (650) 361-1324 Cell: (206) 849-9586 Fax: (650) 361-1348
> ----------
>
> ************
>
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy(at)hub(dot)org secondary: scrappy(at){freebsd|postgresql}.org
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