RE: Timeout parameters

From: MikalaiKeida(at)ibagroup(dot)eu
To: "Nagaura, Ryohei" <nagaura(dot)ryohei(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>
Cc: "AYahorau(at)ibagroup(dot)eu" <AYahorau(at)ibagroup(dot)eu>, 'Fabien COELHO' <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr>, "Jamison, Kirk" <k(dot)jamison(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>, 'Michael Paquier' <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, "'pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org'" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>
Subject: RE: Timeout parameters
Date: 2019-03-11 09:07:11
Message-ID: OF4918EAD0.A1F2C472-ON432583BA.003102FD-432583BA.0032191B@iba.by
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Hello Ryohei-san,

I understand the main aim of your suggestion that a client application has
to do a lot of work except making quires to the database. I agree with you
that "client-side timeout" has to be integrated into the PostgreSQL server
and libpq.
I'm with Fabien that "client-side timeout" seems unsafe. Also I agree with
Fabien that quire can take much time to be processed by the PosgtreSQL
server and it is a normal behavior. There is possible that performance of
the PostgreSQL server machine can be low temporary or continuously,
especially during upgrading procedure.
I think it is important to add some more information into the description
of this parameter which informs end-users that this parameter has to be
used very carefully because it can impact as on the client application as
on the server.

> You mentioned about when a SQL query is heavy, but I want to talk about
when OS hang.
> If OS hang occurs, the cost of cancel request processing is so high.

Such a situation looks to be covered by TCP_USER_TIMEOUT and keep_alive
mechanisms. May be it is better to warn in documentation or prohibit in
the source code to set "client-side timeout" less than TCP_USER_TIMEOUT to
avoid handling "possible" logical problems ahead to the network problems.
Keep in mind that "client-side timeout" can abort a connection which
uses UNIX-domain sockets too.

What do you think about it?

Best regards,
Mikalai Keida

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