Re: Vote needed: revert beta2 changes or not?

From: "Dave Page" <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
To: "Alvaro Herrera" <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: <mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc>, "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Vote needed: revert beta2 changes or not?
Date: 2005-10-07 07:53:49
Message-ID: E7F85A1B5FF8D44C8A1AF6885BC9A0E4CC3251@ratbert.vale-housing.co.uk
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of
> Alvaro Herrera
> Sent: 07 October 2005 03:32
> To: Marc G. Fournier
> Cc: mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc; Tom Lane; pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Vote needed: revert beta2 changes or not?
>
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:57:33PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, mark(at)mark(dot)mielke(dot)cc wrote:
> >
> > >I don't get a vote - but I do want to suggest, as a user,
> that I get
> > >generally annoyed with the presence of interfaces with names that
> > >were chosen for historical reasons, but are maintained only for
> > >compatibility, and either never did, or no longer apply.
> > >
> > >I'd rather you left it fixed. Returning it to the old name, for the
> > >sake of process, and no other good reason, doesn't appeal to me.
>
> It's not just for the sake of process. It's because the pgAdmin guys,
> who were the ones which invented the API and the users of it, are
> already using it with this interface. Changing it means they take the
> compatibility hit. However, I question how hard the compatibility hit
> is -- for the return type, isn't it a matter of testing two possible
> values instead of one? The naming case is harder, but how much?

Thanks Alvaro :-). More by luck than judgement we actually weren't
affected by any of the changes in the end. I do think that
pg_cancel_backend should be reverted given that it is a change from 8.0
as opposed to being completely new, and I definitely think we need to
ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen again in beta without very
good reason.

Regards, Dave.

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