Re: [PATCHES] Win32 Event log

Everything is still as I stated below AFAIK.

/D

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us]
> Sent: 18 August 2004 04:27
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Andrew Dunstan; pgsql-hackers-win32
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [PATCHES] Win32 Event log
>
>
> OK, where are we now on the NT4 support issue? Do we need to
> modify the 8.0 release announcement?
>
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> Dave Page wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us]
> > > Sent: 13 August 2004 03:59
> > > To: Dave Page
> > > Cc: Andrew Dunstan; pgsql-hackers-win32
> > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [PATCHES] Win32 Event log
> > >
> > > (http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/10825_2239651_3
> > > for
> > > > further analyis). Therefore, attempts to create
> tablespaces will
> > > > probably cause a crash.
> > >
> > > Can't we fix such a _hypothetical_ crash when someone finally
> > > reports it?
> > > In fact I bet we aren't going to be able to prevent folks from
> > > running on NT4 anyway so we will have to fix it.
> >
> > On further examination of Andreas' patch, it doesn't use an
> APIs that
> > aren't in NT4 as far as I can see, instead it uses existing
> functions
> > (such as DeviceIoControl), but with control codes like
> > FSCTL_SET_REPARSE_POINT which are *not* in NT. As far as I can tell
> > without spending time I don't have on it, symlink creation
> will fail
> > gracefully and as long as the create tablespace code can
> handle that,
> > it should be pretty clean.
> >
> > > If the installer can't run on NT4 SP4, that is an
> installer issue.
> > > I don't see why we should label the base source code as
> not working
> > > on it.
> >
> > Because the vast majority of Windows users *will not* compile from
> > source, they will use the installer. If press releases go
> out saying
> > it supports NT4 and we do get a ton of downloads from NT users, we
> > will end up with a correspopnding flood of emails and bug
> reports. End
> > users will not see the difference between the source, and the
> > precompiled binary, even if we do see them as separate projects.
> >
> > > If it doesn't have symlinks, fine, no tablespaces. I
> will update the
> > > release notes to mention the installer doesn't run on NT4.
> > >
> > > Basically, we can't turn the PostgreSQL ship on a dime.
> If we come
> > > out and say NT4 doesn't work, the someone else appears
> and gets it
> > > working, it is harder to communicate that. I don't want to be
> > > adding/removing
> > > NT4 based on untested ideas.
> >
> > The installer issue is not untested - I got a bug report
> about it this
> > morning. The table spaces issue is, but as no-one here
> seems to have
> > NT4 we can't test it. We also cannot reasonably support a platform
> > that none of us have access to.
> >
> > By all means note that the base code will compile and run without
> > tablespaces on NT4, but please do not announce that it's an
> official
> > supported platform.
> >
> > Regards, Dave.
> >
>
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