From: | "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
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To: | Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> |
Cc: | Damien Clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>, PostgreSQL Advocacy Group <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Managing International Sites |
Date: | 2017-11-29 18:50:47 |
Message-ID: | E74A6721-480F-4EF6-A352-262C2558BB44@postgresql.org |
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Hi Damien & Guillaume,
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 6:29 PM, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>
> 2017-11-28 23:28 GMT+01:00 Damien Clochard <damien(at)dalibo(dot)info <mailto:damien(at)dalibo(dot)info>>:
> Le 28.11.2017 22:20, Jonathan S. Katz a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> When going through an unrelated audit of the site contact, I was
> looking at our International Site page here:
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/community/international/ <https://www.postgresql.org/community/international/>
>
> …and when going through the links, noticed a bunch of the sites were
> either dead, unsupported, or placeholders, including:
>
> * Chinese (Simplified)
> * Cubana
> * Español (all 3 listed)
> * Greek
> * Italiano (Associazione Italian PostgreSQL Users Group)
>
> Additionally, others sites have not been updated for at least a year.
>
> Before removing the dead links, I wanted to raise the following:
>
> 1. Do the maintainers need to update the URLs? If so please contact
> me ASAP. I would like to remove them by the end of the week.
> 2. Do we feel that the international sites still provide value to
> the community at large? This is mainly to solicit feedback and not
> start a fight. Personally I am happy for us to monitor the sites (see
> point #3), but I want to ensure that these sites help drive adoption
> and usage of Postgres.
> 3. If we are going to continue having the international sites as a
> feature, we need some community guidelines similar to what we setup
> for the NPOs and community events. I would be happy to take charge on
> that if there are no objections.
>
>
> 1. The link to the French speaking website should be https://www.postgresql.fr/ <https://www.postgresql.fr/> ( instead of http://www.postgresqlfr.org/ <http://www.postgresqlfr.org/> )
Great, I will be sure to update that in the change.
>
> 2. Yes the French websites provides values to the community ! We have a forum, a blog, the documentation, a wiki, etc…
That is great to hear!
> I think it'd be interesting to add more links between the .org sites and the .fr sites. For instances, it would be cool if every documentation page had a link to the similar page in the French documentation, allowing readers to switch easily between the original version and their own language
That is a very good idea and something we should explore.
> 3. The postgresql.fr <http://postgresql.fr/> domain and the hosting service are paid by the PostgreSQLFr association. The sysadmin team that operates it is open and autonomous. The PostgreSQLfr association also holds most of the social networks accounts (twitter, G+, linkedin, youtube, etc.) with another dedicated team to manage those accounts. Lats year, we defined a set of guidelines regarding the use of these accounts (link below) and we'd be happy to share our experience :
>
> https://www.postgresql.fr/asso/charte_des_outils_de_communication <https://www.postgresql.fr/asso/charte_des_outils_de_communication>
>
> If need be, I +1 everything Damien just said there. There's a huge work on the translation of the manual, on the web forums, and on the NPO.
My last point was for “If we do continue to link to the International sites, we should have guidelines on what content they should contain” similar to some other guidelines. It seems like the PostgreSQL.fr <http://postgresql.fr/> and some of the other actively maintained ones could serve as a model for setting up those guidelines. Once those guidelines are published, we can give the international sites a grace period to follow the guidelines and also have a proper evaluation process for bringing new sites into the fold.
Best,
Jonathan
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