RE: [EXT] Re: DBeaver session populating pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin

From: "Dirschel, Steve" <steve(dot)dirschel(at)thomsonreuters(dot)com>
To: Thomas Kellerer <shammat(at)gmx(dot)net>, "pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: DBeaver session populating pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin
Date: 2023-01-25 22:21:14
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>> When I connect to the database through DBeaver with those 2 default
>> settings changed and find that session in pg_stat_activity column
>> xact_start is populated along with backend_xmin. Those get populated
>> just by logging in.

>As you found out in the log, the driver runs DbEaver run multiple SQL statements during the "log in".
>And the first query will start a transaction, but as autocommit is disabled, nothing will end that transaction.

Yes, I agree with that. And if I set autocommit off in psql I see the same where a select will start a transaction.

>> The problem is users will connect using DBeaver and their sessions
>> will sit idle.

>Idle is not a problem, "idle in transaction" is.

From my perspective "idle in transaction" isn't necessarily a problem (although I don't like seeing sessions sitting like that for a long time). The problem is when pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin is populated- that can prevent autovacuum from cleaning up old records. Again, if I login to psql, set auto commit off and run a select I see pg_stat_activity.xact_start populated but pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin is NOT populated. So that transaction from psql would not prevent autovacuum from cleaning up. But when this happens through DBeaver not only is pg_stat_activity.xact_start populated but pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin is also populated. My main question is what could DBeaver be doing to get pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin populated? It doesn't happen when running a test in psql. So at this point I'm unable to duplicate this issue in psql running the same thing I think DBeaver is running. Maybe if I asked the question a little differently- in psql if I set autocommit off and run a select what else do I need to run to get pg_stat_activity.backend_xmin populated through that session? Is there a certain "type" of select I could run to get it populated? I know if I insert or update or delete a row it will get populated but I also know DBeaver is not executing an insert/update/delete.

>> It executes the exact same commands except when the 2 default DBeaver
>> settings are changed to show the issue it is issuing a BEGIN and
>> COMMIT around one block of code and then at another part of code it
>> issues a BEGIN, runs some queries, and never issues a COMMIT.

>Yes, that's how turning off autocommit works. As soon as a statement is sent through the JDBC driver, the driver will send a BEGIN to start the transaction, but the the application (or the user) is responsible to end it through a COMMIT (or ROLLBACK).

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