Re: read this and puke

I often enjoy reading about software development on the O'Reilly Network
(http://www.oreillynet.com) One of their primary sub-sites is OnLAMP
(http://www.onlamp.com/) where LAMP stands for Linux Apache MySQL
Perl|Python|PHP. This is a collection of war story and how-to articles for
those technologies. This is a pretty high profile site. If you really want
more and better press then this is the sort of exposure that you need.
Someone that has good pull in the PostgreSQL community (Bruce? Tom?) should
be talking with Tim O'Reilly to get him to sponsor a similar site for
Postgres.

FWIW I sent an email to the "Ask Tim" link asking about getting that sort of
exposure and volunteering my time to make it happen but I never heard back.
I don't think that I rate a blip on his RADAR but I'm sure that someone with
a good name could make some in-roads. Have your people call his people to
schedule a con-call over a nice latte or something.

rjsjr

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> [mailto:pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org]On Behalf Of Philip Hallstrom
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:43 PM
> To: Bruce Momjian
> Cc: tony; postgres list
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] read this and puke
>
>
> > tony wrote:
> > >
> http://r.hotwired.com/r/wn_html_link/http://www.wired.com/news/lin
> ux/0,1411,53006,00.html
> > >
> > > MySQL a dangerous competitor to Oracle...
> > >
>
> While I think we all would agree that PostgreSQL is a better database, I
> liked the article. As long as it's an open-source-db vs. commercial-db I
> don't think PostgreSQL can lose. Sure, that article will get people
> looking at MySQL and for some (probably most) people MySQL will do
> everything they want... but for some it won't and they'll wonder if
> there's something else out there and find PostgreSQL. That's what
> happened to me...
>
> I started with mssql, then *had* to use Oracle because of another apps
> requirement, then used mySQL for some intranet stuff (didn't want to pay
> for another oracle license for starters). I didn't start using PostgreSQL
> until I decided i really wanted views, triggers, foreign-keys, etc.. I
> still use both depending on the client (and where it's going to be
> hosted). I prefer PostgreSQL, but for some things it's overkill..
>
> > > Guys we need a marketing department!!! Or I'll just move the
> application
> > > running my nuclear power station to MySQL...
>
> You might also ask if you'd switch your power plant to PostgreSQL :) I
> don't think I would only because of some of Tom Lane's comments regarding
> PostgreSQL's appropriateness for mission critical 24/7 environments...
> I'm also not saying that Oracle would be better either... I prefer to
> leave nuclear power plants to Homer Simpson :)
>
> > Anyway, you are right. We need such highly visible sites to help
> > continue our user growth. It isn't required, but it clearly helps. We
>
> One thing that PHP (well Zend) does that I think is pretty useful is to
> have a nice case study section. For example this link about the navy
> using PHP. I send that to a lot of people when they start wavering about
> using PHP...
>
> http://www.zend.com/zend/cs/csnavalready.php
>
>
> Granted it means that we need to find people that are using PostgreSQL and
> find someone to write about it as well, but this sort of thing is pretty
> useful. Heck the whole "Community" section on zend.com is pretty nice.
>
> I'm up for helping with website stuff (development wise) ... don't know
> that I have much to offer article/case-study wise though...
>
> -philip
>
>
>
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