Re: My user experience with pgAdmin 4.

From: Jack Royal-Gordon <jackrg(at)pobox(dot)com>
To: tutiluren(at)tutanota(dot)com
Cc: Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>, Pgadmin Support <pgadmin-support(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: My user experience with pgAdmin 4.
Date: 2019-08-07 00:56:07
Message-ID: D8D2034A-FC87-44FC-B386-B548A1164FC6@pobox.com
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tutiluren, I think you’re being a little thin-skinned here. I don’t think he was accusing you of misusing the browser, but I think you should admit that the root of most of the problems being described here is the necessity of clearing your browser history often, due to bad players who take advantage of the browser history to do bad things — that’s not the fault of the pgAdmin4 developers. But it is one factor in deciding whether to use a browser-based UI. There are many factors, such as the number of platforms they want to support, and the limited programming and testing time available for all of these platforms. Every solution has it’s downside, so don’t act as though they made the only choice that would inconvenience you.

I believe you would have the option of using one browser for outward browsing, and clearing it’s cache and history as often as you want, and using another one for pgAdmin4 (and whatever apps you trust) where you don’t clear the browser every day. Or maybe you can use a browser that is more secure than the usual suspects (I believe they exist do not have any personal experience with them). Or maybe you can help organize complaints to those who build the insecure browsers to make them more secure. And certainly, putting your two-cents in about their UI choice in pgAdmin4 is also certainly within your rights. But don’t act as though they made their UI choice in order to upset you, or that they don’t care that your workflow is cumbersome because of decisions they made. It’s just that the reasons they had for deciding to be browser-based probably outweigh your inconvenience. And you can always vote with your feet.

> On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:24 PM, <tutiluren(at)tutanota(dot)com> <tutiluren(at)tutanota(dot)com> wrote:
>
> "What could be done to improve your workflow?"
>
> This is the definition of arrogance... My "workflow" isn't what is abusing my browser. Don't even try to make this about me "doing something wrong".

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