Re: Pg default's verbosity?

I've always used -1-f - < file.sql. It is confusing that -1 doesn't warn you when it wont work though.

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On Jun 16, 2012, at 3:42 AM, Fabien COELHO <coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr> wrote:

>
> Hello pgdev,
>
> (Second attempt)
>
> I've conducted a statistical study about PostgreSQL use in OSS. One of the result is that quite a few projects have errors in their SQL setup scripts which lead to some statements to be ignored, typically somme ADD CONSTRAINTS which do not change the database schema from a functional point of view, or syntactic errors (typically a mysql syntax...) that
> result in missing tables, but which are not found if the application is not fully tested.
>
> I think that there are two reasons why these errors are not caught by application developers:
>
> (1) the default verbosity is set to "notice", which is much to high. The users just get used to seeing a lot of messages on loading an sql script, and to ignore them, so that errors are just hidden in the flow of notices. I think that a better default setting would be "warnings", that is messages that require some attention from the developer.
>
> (2) the default behavior of psql on errors is to keep going. Developers of SQL script that are expected to work shoud be advised to:
> - encourage application devs to set ON_ERROR_STOP and/or use a global
> transaction in their script.
> - provide a simple/short option to do that from the command line
> basically that could be an enhanced "-1", NOT restricted
> to "-f" but that would work on standard input as well.
>
> sh> psql -1 -f setup.sql # -1 does work here
> sh> psql -1 < setup.sql # -1 does not apply to stdin stuff...
>
>
> So I would suggest the following todos:
>
> 1 - change the default verbosity to "warning".
>
> 2 - change -1 to work on stdin as well instead of being ignored,
> or provide another option that would do that.
>
> --
> Fabien Coelho - coelho(at)cri(dot)ensmp(dot)fr
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