Re: New archives layout is not an improvement

> On Apr 18, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:
>
> HI Alvaro,
>
>> On Apr 18, 2018, at 4:56 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org <mailto:alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>> wrote:
>
>> 4. Another point is that we don't really need to display the email
>> addresses of people listed in From, To, CC fields; they look like just
>> clutter (plus we're probably feeding the spammers). How about we lose
>> them? So instead of
>>
>> Cc: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>,Christophe Pettus <xof(at)thebuild(dot)com>,Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>,Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>,Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>,Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>,Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop(at)altatus(dot)com>,Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>,Catalin Iacob <iacobcatalin(at)gmail(dot)com>,PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
>>
>> we would have
>> Cc: Tomas Vondra, Christophe Pettus, Craig Ringer, Thomas Munro, Andrew Gierth, Robert Haas, Anthony Iliopoulos, Tom Lane, Catalin Iacob, PostgreSQL Hackers
>>
>> (if we really wanted to keep the email addresses, maybe they could be in
>> a tooltip on each name instead?)
>
> Or (hear me out) given what we know about email and anti-spam technology
> today, we could use anchor tags…
>
> I do like the name idea. However given a quick glance at the code, it looks like
> we’d have to do some nontrivial post-processing work based on how all of that
> is stored. Now, we already do some nontrivial post-processing work to handle
> the email obfuscation as seen above, so perhaps we can put this on the table.
>
> Anyway, to argue the other side of “leave it as is” part of the mail archives is
> to see who sent the email and from where. We could accomplish that with
> something like a tool tip (feeling eh about this; I find unless you make a
> tooltip obvious people don’t use it) or with the anchor/mailto work, which
> has the added benefit of being a URL and in most browsers acts as a tooltip.

Thought about this a bit, perhaps a happy medium is:

<a href=“mailto:email(at)domain(dot)org”>Name</a>

That way, the name renders, there is the “tooltip,” and there is an anchor tag
without the real email in it.

In the case where there is no name, we would just render the email in its
place i.e.:

<a href=“mailto:email(at)domain(dot)org”>email(at)domain(dot)org</a>

Thoughts?

Jonathan