Re: Convincing the query planner to play nice

From: Tim Kane <tim(dot)kane(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-general General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Convincing the query planner to play nice
Date: 2013-08-11 01:03:08
Message-ID: D3EBD064-D646-46D8-B00A-3646613B4657@gmail.com
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Yep, the effective_cache_size was specifically because we have lots of RAM to play with, and want to ensure we are caching wherever possible.
The reduced random_page_cost was primarily to allow for the fact we're using relatively fast disk (indexes are SSD, table data on SAS drives), though I didn't fully appreciate how the combination of these settings can influence the preference towards a sequential vs index scan.

I think i'll stop tweaking for now, and see how it performs in the next few days. I feel like I have a much better handle on how the planner is pulling everything together. Cheers.

Tim

On 11 Aug 2013, at 01:38, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Tim Kane <tim(dot)kane(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> I guess the clustering approach managed to work around the need to mess with the statistics target. I did previously increase the target to 1000 (from 100) for that field and had no impact, but this is an aspect of tuning I'm not so familiar with - I didn't consider pushing it all the way to 11.
>
> Yeah, I had actually started to write an email recommending that you dial
> down effective_cache_size and increase random_page_cost, before I noticed
> the discrepancy in the merge join cost and realized what was really going
> on.
>
> The question now is why you had those settings like that before, and
> whether changing them back in the direction of the defaults might not be
> pessimizing the behavior for other queries. If you have a lot of RAM and
> mostly-cached queries, the previous settings didn't sound unreasonable.
>
> regards, tom lane

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