Re: Changing shared_buffers without restart

From: Ni Ku <jakkuniku(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Changing shared_buffers without restart
Date: 2025-04-17 23:05:36
Message-ID: CAPuPUJwDa_WEVmkknyYHYub5qvBuwKyLLOOiUpyiq6Wd=9FQ_g@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Ashutosh / Dmitry,

Thanks for the information and discussions, it's been very helpful.

I also have a related question about how ftruncate() is used in the patch.
In my testing I also see that when using ftruncate to shrink a shared
segment, the memory is freed immediately after the call, even if other
processes still have that memory mapped, and they will hit SIGBUS if they
try to access that memory again as the manpage says.

So am I correct to think that, to support the bufferpool shrinking case, it
would not be safe to call ftruncate in AnonymousShmemResize as-is, since at
that point other processes may still be using pages that belong to the
truncated memory?
It appears that for shrinking we should only call ftruncate when we're sure
no process will access those pages again (eg, all processes have handled
the resize interrupt signal barrier). I suppose this can be done by the
resize coordinator after synchronizing with all the other processes.
But in that case it seems we cannot use the postmaster as the coordinator
then? b/c I see some code comments saying the postmaster does not have
waiting infrastructure... (maybe even if the postmaster has waiting infra
we don't want to use it anyway since it can be blocked for a long time and
won't be able to serve other requests).

Regards,

Jack Ng

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