From: | Alexander Korotkov <a(dot)korotkov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru> |
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To: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
Cc: | "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>, "ik(at)postgresql-consulting(dot)com" <ik(at)postgresql-consulting(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Wait events monitoring future development |
Date: | 2016-08-10 14:14:52 |
Message-ID: | CAPpHfdvh6DVzvWZe2iajaTWSzJcxrMRz7i-20cAfYN3_WH9MfA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 02:06:40AM +0000, Tsunakawa, Takayuki wrote:
> > I hope wait event monitoring will be on by default even if the overhead
> is not
> > almost zero, because the data needs to be readily available for faster
> > troubleshooting. IMO, the benefit would be worth even 10% overhead. If
> you
> > disable it by default because of overhead, how can we convince users to
> enable
> > it in production systems to solve some performance problem? I’m afraid
> severe
> > users would say “we can’t change any setting that might cause more
> trouble, so
> > investigate the cause with existing information.”
>
> If you want to know why people are against enabling this monitoring by
> default, above is the reason. What percentage of people do you think
> would be willing to take a 10% performance penalty for monitoring like
> this? I would bet very few, but the argument above doesn't seem to
> address the fact it is a small percentage.
>
Just two notes from me:
1) 10% overhead from monitoring wait events is just an idea without any
proof so soon.
2) We already have functionality which trades insight into database with
way more huge overhead. auto_explain.log_analyze = true can slowdown
queries *in times*. Do you think we should remove it?
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Alexander Korotkov
Postgres Professional: http://www.postgrespro.com
The Russian Postgres Company
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