Re: Local User Groups - advocacy

Hi Jonathan, All,

To take our discussion on this thread further, I went through the content
on the wiki page and rewrote it a bit.
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual

I made five sections, keeping in mind what I'd see going on the postgres.org
website PUG page <https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/>:

1. Small blurb at the top (see under *creating a new user group*)
2. *Starting your PUG* (guides you through the process of creating all
needed resources and announcing the group to the community)
3. *Holding your first meetup* (talks about different organisational
aspects of a meetup, how to get funding, and where to announce)
4. *Holding more meetings *(a general guidance on holding meetup series)
5. *Useful links *(this needs more links, examples of active user group
pages, checklists, articles about choosing topics for PUG meetings and how
to run them. *If anyone has good examples for it, could you please ad the
link to the wiki *
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual#Useful_Links *or send
it to this thread and I'll add*.)

I left Notes and Brain Dump, they do have some useful nuggets of
information, but I think it'd be too much for the website.

*It definitely needs a proof, so if anyone can help with that it would be
great.*

Once on the website, I have a few ideas that could bring this section of
the website to live a bit more (an animation to explain the process and
maybe series of video interviews with those who have experience organising
PUG meetings)... "You may say I`m a dreamer; but I`m not the only one." :)

Cheers,
Valeria

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <vk(at)dataegret(dot)com
> > <mailto:vk(at)dataegret(dot)com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Umair,
> >
> > Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
> > Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
> > the main website?
> >
> > I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
> > here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least
> > provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would
> > liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
> > think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
> > community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for
> > information like that on the main website.).
> >
> > All,
> > what do you think?
> >
> >
> > Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
> > useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
> > some vague notion of how to search for it.
> >
> > +1 for the main page
>
> I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
> changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
> something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.
>
> That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
> how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
> some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
> modify a Wiki page than the website.
>
> Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
> can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
> page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>