Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Declarative partitioning in pgAdmin4

From: Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io>
To: Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Ashesh Vashi <ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>
Subject: Re: [pgadmin-hackers] Declarative partitioning in pgAdmin4
Date: 2017-06-19 18:46:01
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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:59 AM Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Shirley Wang <swang(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:
>
>> Looks good. I noticed people clicking back and forth to the columns tab
>> to remember which columns they've created while filling out the Expressions
>> column. It might be better to have a list of the columns and the datatype
>> above the 'Partition Keys' subnode and have columns as a type field rather
>> than a drop down.
>>
>
> I think we should not duplicate that data as we already have all the
> information on "Columns" tab and by providing drop down user can select
> columns from there only.
>
>>
>> Also, I think the fields someone sees after selecting the Key type needs
>> to depend on what they select. Seeing both Column and Expressions type
>> field might lead someone to think they need to fill out both fields.
>>
>
> We can't, because user can select one column and provide an expression
> as partition key in this case we will have to show both the columns in
> subnode control. Anyways when user select columns I have disabled the
> expression cell and if user selects expression column cell is disabled.
>

Ah I see what you mean. What I meant was that the column would change
depending on if someone selects Column or Expressions from the dropdown
[image: expression.png]
Can a user select more than one key type? The use case I can see where
hiding 'Columns' or 'Expressions' would fail is if someone can create an
expression key type and a column key type.

Disabling a feature is one way to guide user behavior, but it doesn't
provide enough context for someone to understand why it's disabled. It's
better to only display what is absolutely necessary and hide fields that
are unrelated to the workflow.

Typically, disabling a UI element is useful when that disabled UI element
also provides some context or value while disabled. In this case, I'm not
sure it is.

If hiding options isn't possible, providing some text in the fields (like
N/A or --) would be helpful.

>
>> [image: coluns_partitioning.png]
>> When is the 'In' column in the Partitions subnode enabled?
>>
>
> In case of 'List' Partition.
>

It would improve the experience if the 'In' column was removed when a user
selects 'Range' partitions then. And then if a user is creating a 'List'
partition, 'From/To' should be hidden. In this case, 'From/To' and 'In' are
dependent on that first drop down step, so seeing 'In' while on 'Range
partitions' (and 'From/To' on 'List partitions') is not providing any value.

>
>> For the NoteControl on the bottom, what do 'Mode Control' or 'Attach
>> Mode' refer to? And how can I tell the difference between 'Create Mode' and
>> 'Edit Mode'?
>>
>
> 'Mode control' is a switch control in subnode control that should be
> "Mode switch control". 'Create Mode' is when user creates the new table by
> clicking create-> table and 'Edit Mode' is when user open the properties
> dialog for the existing table. In case of 'Edit Mode' there are two ways
> user can create/attach partitions. In Attach mode we will identify and list
> down the suitable tables to be attached.
>

I see. Describing these various states is great in case a user needs it.
What are your thoughts on having it live in the documentation of pgAdmin4
rather than in the dialog? This seems to be the established pattern for all
other explanations.

>

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