From: | David Christensen <david(dot)christensen(at)crunchydata(dot)com> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
Cc: | Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
Subject: | Re: [PATCHES] Post-special page storage TDE support |
Date: | 2023-11-29 15:12:31 |
Message-ID: | CAOxo6X+-i9JJVT1mEEvNPKesJcpem8tGwra4ALivP0t21dmO4g@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 6:20 PM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> - IMO the patch touches many places it shouldn't need to touch, because of
> essentially renaming a lot of existing macro names to *Limit,
> necessitating modifying a lot of users. I think instead the few places
> that
> care about the runtime limit should be modified.
>
> As-is the patch would cause a lot of fallout in extensions that just do
> things like defining an on-stack array of Datums or such - even though
> all
> they'd need is to change the define to the *Limit one.
>
> Even leaving extensions aside, it must makes reviewing (and I'm sure
> maintaining) the patch very tedious.
>
Hi Andres et al,
So I've been looking at alternate approaches to this issue and considering
how to reduce churn, and I think we still need the *Limit variants. Let's
take a simple example:
Just looking at MaxHeapTuplesPerPage and breaking down instances in the
code, loosely partitioning into whether it's used as an array index or
other usage (doesn't discriminate against code vs comments, unfortunately)
we get the following breakdown:
$ git grep -hoE [[]?MaxHeapTuplesPerPage | sort | uniq -c
18 [MaxHeapTuplesPerPage
51 MaxHeapTuplesPerPage
This would be 18 places where we would need at adjust in a fairly
mechanical fashion to add the MaxHeapTuplesPerPageLimit instead of
MaxHeapTuplesPerPage vs some significant fraction of non-comment--even if
you assumed half were in comments, there would presumably need to be some
sort of adjustments in verbage since we are going to be changing some of
the interpretation.
I am working on a patch to cleanup some of the assumptions that smgr makes
currently about its space usage and how the individual access methods
consider it, as they should only be calculating things based on how much
space is available after smgr is done with it. That has traditionally been
BLCKSZ - SizeOfPageHeaderData, but this patch (included) factors that out
into a single expression that we can now use in access methods, so we can
then reserve additional page space and not need to adjust the access
methods furter.
Building on top of this patch, we'd define something like this to handle
the #defines that need to be dynamic:
extern Size reserved_page_space;
#define PageUsableSpace (BLCKSZ - SizeOfPageHeaderData -
reserved_page_space)
#define MaxHeapTuplesPerPage CalcMaxHeapTuplesPerPage(PageUsableSpace)
#define MaxHeapTuplesPerPageLimit CalcMaxHeapTuplesPerPage(BLCKSZ -
SizeOfPageHeaderData)
#define CalcMaxHeapTuplesPerPage(freesize)
((int) ((freesize) / \
(MAXALIGN(SizeofHeapTupleHeader) +
sizeof(ItemIdData))))
In my view, extensions that are expecting to need no changes when it comes
to changing how these are interpreted are better off needing to only change
the static allocation in a mechanical sense than revisit any other uses of
code; this seems more likely to guarantee a correct result than if you
exceed the page space and start overwriting things you weren't because
you're not aware that you need to check for dynamic limits on your own.
Take another thing which would need adjusting for reserving page space,
MaxHeapTupleSize:
$ git grep -ohE '[[]?MaxHeapTupleSize' | sort | uniq -c
3 [MaxHeapTupleSize
16 MaxHeapTupleSize
Here there are 3 static arrays which would need to be adjusted vs 16 other
instances. If we kept MaxHeapTupleSize interpretation the same and didn't
adjust an extension it would compile just fine, but with too large of a
length compared to the smaller PageUsableSpace, so you could conceivably
overwrite into the reserved space depending on what you were doing.
(since by definition the reserved_page_space >= 0, so PageUsableSpace will
always be <= BLCKSZ - SizeOfPageHeaderData, so any expression based on it
as a basis will be smaller).
In short, I think the approach I took originally actually will reduce
errors out-of-core, and while churn is still necessary churn.
I can produce a second patch which implements this calc/limit atop this
first one as well.
Thanks,
David
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