From: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> |
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To: | Gregory Smith <gregsmithpgsql(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Adam Brightwell <adam(dot)brightwell(at)crunchydatasolutions(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)hobby(dot)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)hobby(dot)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)hobby(dot)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Yeb Havinga <yeb(dot)havinga(at)portavita(dot)nl> |
Subject: | Re: API change advice: Passing plan invalidation info from the rewriter into the planner? |
Date: | 2014-06-13 00:13:50 |
Message-ID: | CAOuzzgqO7i7SjBegshf3KUBkL_KyZGgsWkgYgHAQ4hn=4Htkyw@mail.gmail.com |
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Greg, all,
I will reply to the emails in detail when I get a chance but am out of town
at a funeral, so it'll likely be delayed. I did want to echo my agreement
for the most part with Greg and in particular...
On Thursday, June 12, 2014, Gregory Smith <gregsmithpgsql(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On 6/11/14, 10:26 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
>
>> Now, as soon as we introduce the concept that selecting from a table
>> might not really mean "read from the table" but "read from the table after
>> applying this owner-specified qual", we're opening up a whole new set of
>> attack surfaces. Every pg_dump is an opportunity to hack somebody else's
>> account, or at least audit their activity.
>>
>
> I'm in full agreement we should clearly communicate the issues around
> pg_dump in particular, because they can't necessarily be eliminated
> altogether without some major work that's going to take a while to finish.
> And if the work-around is some sort of GUC for killing RLS altogether,
> that's ugly but not unacceptable to me as a short-term fix.
A GUC which is enable / disable / error-instead may work quiet well, with
error-instead for pg_dump default if people really want it (there would
have to be a way to disable that though, imv).
Note that enable is default in general, disable would be for superuser only
(or on start-up) to disable everything, and error-instead anyone could use
but it would error instead of implementing RLS when querying an RLS-enabled
table.
This approach was suggested by an existing user testing out this RLS
approach, to be fair, but it looks pretty sane to me as a way to address
some of these concerns. Certainly open to other ideas and thoughts though.
Thanks,
Stephen
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