Re: What does "[backends] should seldom or never need to wait for a write to occur" mean?

From: Chris Wilson <chris+google(at)qwirx(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Chris Wilson <chris+google(at)qwirx(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Docs <pgsql-docs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: What does "[backends] should seldom or never need to wait for a write to occur" mean?
Date: 2020-11-12 17:25:30
Message-ID: CAOg7f82Hpz3jO6W+SJq6RYLpiH=LhUDBpSST5RZhTJOiEYPcNQ@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Bruce,

Thanks, I absolutely agree that this documentation needs to explain
properly how the bgwriter works. Your latest patch looks good, it
significantly improves this section of the manual. I would just suggest
changing "non-dirty" to "clean" in "When the number of non-dirty shared
buffers appears to be insufficient", as this makes the language simpler and
avoids introducing another new term (non-dirty, which means the same as
clean).

Thanks again, Chris.

On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 16:54, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 02:40:04PM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > Thanks, yes I agree that that is much clearer. However when you say:
> >
> >
> > When the percentage of dirty shared buffers is high, the background
> writer
> > writes some of them to the file system...
> >
> >
> > I haven't seen anything about a minimum percentage before the bgwriter
> kicks
> > in, is that really the case? How is it configured?
>
> Yes, I see your point. My language was not accurate, and it didn't
> match the actual background writer tuning parameters below this text.
> Here is an updated doc patch.
>
> I agree this text should be as clear as possible because there is no way
> to properly tune the background writer parameters unless we explain how
> it works. It is good you noticed this.
>
> --
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>
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>
>

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