| From: | Jacob Champion <jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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| To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Direct SSL connection with ALPN and HBA rules |
| Date: | 2024-05-13 16:45:27 |
| Message-ID: | CAOYmi+kPCxEr62+dGGUOEbzJc4qOfNAPc_v+=3yc0gzTZyEdCw@mail.gmail.com |
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(There's, uh, a lot to respond to above and I'm trying to figure out
how best to type up all of it.)
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 9:13 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> However,
> I disagree with Jacob's assertion that sslmode=require has no security
> benefits over sslmode=prefer.
For the record, I didn't say that... You mean Jelte's quote up above?:
> sslmode=prefer and sslmode=require
> are the same amount of insecure imho (i.e. extremely insecure).
I agree that requiring passive security is tangibly better than
allowing fallback to plaintext. I think Jelte's point might be better
stated as, =prefer and =require give the same amount of protection
against active attack (none).
--Jacob
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