Re: [PATCH] pg_stat_activity: make slow/hanging authentication more visible

From: Jacob Champion <jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Euler Taveira <euler(dot)taveira(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pg_stat_activity: make slow/hanging authentication more visible
Date: 2024-11-01 21:47:38
Message-ID: CAOYmi+kLzSWrDHZbJg8bWZ94oP_K98mkoEvetgupOBVoy5H_ag@mail.gmail.com
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Hi all,

Here's a v4, with a separate wait event for each location. (I could
use some eyes on the specific phrasing I've chosen for each one.)

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 5:10 PM Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
> Could it be more transparent to use a "startup" or
> "starting"" state instead that gets also used by pgstat_bestart() in
> the case of the patch where !pre_auth?

Done. (I've used "starting".)

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 10:30 PM Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
> A new category would be more adapted. IPC is not adapted because are
> not waiting for another server process. Perhaps just use a new
> "Authentication" class, as in "The server is waiting for an
> authentication operation to complete"?

Added a new "Auth" class (to cover both authn and authz during
startup), plus documentation.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 4:42 PM Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
> Setting up twice the structure as the patch proposes is kind of
> a weird concept, but it feels to me that we should split that and set
> the fields in the pre-auth step and ignore the irrelevant ones, then
> complete the rest in a second step.

The more I look at this, the more uneasy I feel about the goal. Best I
can tell, the pre-auth step can't ignore irrelevant fields, because
they may contain junk from the previous owner of the shared memory. So
if we want to optimize, we can only change the second step to skip
fields that were already filled in by the pre-auth step.

That has its own problems: not every backend type uses the pre-auth
step in the current patch. Which means a bunch of backends that don't
benefit from the two-step initialization nevertheless have to either
do two PGSTAT_BEGIN_WRITE_ACTIVITY() dances in a row, or else we
duplicate a bunch of the logic to make sure they maintain the same
efficient code path as before.

Finally, if we're okay with all of that, future maintainers need to be
careful about which fields get copied in the first (preauth) step, the
second step, or both. GSS, for example, can be set up during transport
negotiation (first step) or authentication (second step), so we have
to duplicate the logic there. SSL is currently first-step-only, I
think -- but are we sure we want to hardcode the assumption that cert
auth can't change any of those parameters after the transport has been
established? (I've been brainstorming ways we might use TLS 1.3's
post-handshake CertificateRequest, for example.)

So before I commit to this path, I just want to double-check that all
of the above sounds good and non-controversial. :)

--

In the meantime, is anyone willing and able to commit 0001 and/or 0002?

Thanks!
--Jacob

Attachment Content-Type Size
since-v3.diff.txt text/plain 16.5 KB
v4-0001-BackgroundPsql-handle-empty-query-results.patch application/octet-stream 2.6 KB
v4-0002-Test-Cluster-let-background_psql-work-asynchronou.patch application/octet-stream 3.1 KB
v4-0003-pgstat-report-in-earlier-with-STATE_STARTING.patch application/octet-stream 9.9 KB
v4-0004-Report-external-auth-calls-as-wait-events.patch application/octet-stream 11.5 KB

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