From: | Jacob Champion <jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl>, Renan Alves Fonseca <renanfonseca(at)gmail(dot)com>, Florents Tselai <florents(dot)tselai(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Devrim Gündüz <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, Christoph Berg <myon(at)debian(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: What's our minimum supported Python version? |
Date: | 2025-04-22 22:33:21 |
Message-ID: | CAOYmi+=4Wjh1hDXv=cV15ishuAZPH5eCz0L8FtnC8uEtF4eZHA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 3:04 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> The fact that Jacob was able to fix
> oauth_server.py without (it seemed like) very much work seems to
> bear out that opinion.
I think my ability to do it should not be used as evidence of "ease".
I knew where to download 3.6, that I should build it with Clang to
avoid GCC segfaults, that I should set the rpaths appropriately, and
to wrap it all in a virtualenv for Meson to find. And I had to kick
Meson to get it to clear its cached Python information, or else the
contrib modules refused to build...
I suspect the only way most developers are going to want to test this
is by running EL8.
> This calculus might change if we start to rely more heavily on
> Python for build and test infrastructure than we do today. But
> I think we can have that conversation when it happens.
As long as the need to backport to PG18 doesn't freeze that
conversation in place, I suppose.
> Anyway, what I propose that we do for now is replace the
> installation.sgml text
>
> The minimum required version is Python 3.2.
>
> with
>
> The minimum supported version is Python 3.6.8.
>
> where I use "supported" advisedly, as in "it might work with
> something older, but we don't promise to fix it if not".
No objection to that as a first step. I'm still hopeful that Devrim
has some evidence in favor of bumping to 3.8 or 3.9. :)
Thanks,
--Jacob
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