Re: Idea: Avoid JOINs by using path expressions to follow FKs

From: Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Joel Jacobson <joel(at)compiler(dot)org>
Cc: Isaac Morland <isaac(dot)morland(at)gmail(dot)com>, Vik Fearing <vik(at)postgresfriends(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Idea: Avoid JOINs by using path expressions to follow FKs
Date: 2021-03-31 17:16:44
Message-ID: CAOBaU_a6fx+W7PSgEqyn7WNvdh6_6MTnPpXCyK7ts1XVWia+WA@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 5:19 PM Joel Jacobson <joel(at)compiler(dot)org> wrote:
>
> If using the -> notation, you would only need to manually
> inspect the tables involved in the remaining JOINs;
> since you could be confident all uses of -> cannot affect cardinality.

Talking about that, do you have some answers to the points raised in
my previous mail, which is how it's supposed to behave when a table is
both join using your "->" syntax and a plain JOIN, how to join the
same table multiple time using this new syntax, and how to add
predicates to the join clause using this new syntax.

> I think this would be a win also for an expert SQL consultant working
> with a new complex data model never seen before.

By experience if the queries are written with ANSI JOIN it's not
really a problem. And if it's a new complex data model that was never
seen, I would need to inspect the data model first anyway to
understand what the query is (or should be) doing.

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