From: | Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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Subject: | Re: Mimic ALIAS in Postgresql? |
Date: | 2024-01-23 02:55:36 |
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:40 PM Rob Sargent <robjsargent(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On 1/17/24 16:25, Jim Nasby wrote:
>
> On 1/16/24 6:41 PM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>
> On 1/16/24 17:39, Jim Nasby wrote:
>
> On 1/16/24 4:57 PM, Rob Sargent wrote:
>
> Or perhaps you have to beef the sed up to use word boundaries just
> in case.
>
>
> I'm not a Java web developer... 😁
>
>
> You need to adjust you glasses if that's what you see me as.
>
>
> Reality is that basically all modern (as in last 20 years) SQL access is
> via frameworks that all use their own language and come up with SQL based
> on that. How hard it'd be to bulk change the schema depends entirely on the
> framework.
>
> Hm, it's a string /somewhere/. The rest of this thread might be accused
> of adding to the problem.
>
>
> No, it's not, at least not as a complete SQL statement. See [1] as an
> example of how this works in Ruby on Rails. Most modern frameworks work in
> a similar fashion: you DON'T write raw SQL, or anything that looks anything
> like it. In fact, many (most?) of these frameworks make it difficult to do
> anything in raw SQL because it completely breaks the paradigm of the
> framework.
>
> Note that I'm talking about *frameworks*, not languages. But since most
> languages require huge amounts of boilerplate to create a web service or
> website it's not surprising that pretty much everyone uses frameworks. (Go
> is actually an interesting exception to this.)
>
> 1: https://guides.rubyonrails.org/active_record_querying.html#find
>
> You may well be correct, but I have to ask the OP (Ron) if this is the
> case in the current situation. I find it difficult to conceive of a
> "framework" apparently arbitrarily flipping between the alias and the base
> name. (I read "For example, sometimes" as arbitrarily.) The few database
> frameworks with which I'm familiar would tolerate the coder using either
> name. And indeed in those (hibernate, mybatis, jOOQ) the coder would be
> the one choosing the /nom du jour/.
>
I don't know what, if any, framework the developer uses.
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