Re: vacuum visibility relevance

From: Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: vacuum visibility relevance
Date: 2023-12-04 02:15:24
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On Sun, Dec 3, 2023 at 9:08 PM senor <frio_cervesa(at)hotmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Simplified Scenario:
> 40+ gig table with 20+ indexes receiving log event type records in an
> append only fashion.
> One of the columns is a sequence ID.
> PG version 11.4
>
> If I start a vacuum on this table when sequence ID is 1 million, and the
> table continues to accumulate new events, when vacuum completes, should I
> be thinking about the state of the table and indexes as being vacuumed up
> to 1 million? Or is vacuum also operating on records inserted after vacuum
> started?
>
> Is there any reason to think about this differently when the vacuum is
> manual as opposed to auto?
>
> I attempted to deal with the append only issue corrected in PG13 by
> setting autovacuum_freeze_max_age low enough to trigger vacuum but that has
> been such a wild card I abandoned it. I'm now trying to find a formula to
> trigger a manual vacuum. There are stats gathering processes pulling from
> the most recently added data all the time so my priority is to keep
> performance high for those. Secondly, there's a ton of memory allotted so
> running vacuum freeze before table pages age out of memory seems like a
> good idea.
>
> I am having trouble with autovacuum keeping up and I suspect there's a
> communication problem with the stats collector but have put off looking
> into that because updating to PG15 was "right around the corner".
> Meanwhile, I have had to run multiple-thread scripts to keep up vacuum.
> Manual vacuums always work and updates stats correctly but autovacuums hang
> and occupies workers doing nothing.
>
> I realize these are 2 completely different issues. I would love to have
> better understanding of the initial question but it feels like I may not
> have to be very aware of how that works if I knew what was causing the
> latter issue. Any hints, pointers and references are always appreciated.
>

What do you have autovacuum_vacuum_scale_factor set to? The default 0.1 is
almost certainly way too high.

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