Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time?

All,
The subject of the discussion/track is to whether or not there should be a
code of condect (Coc).

Whether or not there should be a charge for PostgreSQL does not belong in
this track, and is, in fact, a moot point as PostgreSQL IS a _free_
database, as is this community board.

If you feel it is necessary to discuss fees, then kindly respect Josua
Drake's intent of a CoC and open a separate discussion.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 10:03 AM, James Keener <jim(at)jimkeener(dot)com> wrote:

> > My only aim is further progress of postgresql.
> Charging for it would do exactly that. Most people would simply switch
> to MySQL (or Maria) or stop upgrading/upgrade to a fork.
>
> > As per Sun Microsystem’s case charging zero dollars (for Java and mysql)
> > means there is zero income.
> Why do you think this is a company? There _are_ companies that offer
> support and coding. While I'm sure everyone would agree that developers
> should be able to eat (and more/better than Raman), the point of the
> "The PostgreSQL Global Development Group" and being "The world's most
> advanced open source database" is not to become Ellison. The commercial
> support and consulting offerings are there to make the money. The rest
> of us plebs just have to help each other out.
>
> Had PostgreSQL started out/never became open source, we would be having
> a very different discussion (about a very different product, if it still
> existed). As it stands, fundamentally shifting the goals, objectives, MO
> of a libre and beer free software project to something other than that
> is going to be met with a lot of resistance because it shifts how we as
> users interact with something we've interacted with in a certain way and
> with certain expectations for years.
>
> > Emails are not the best medium for consulting about complex issues.
> Emails are actually a decent medium because they allow one to express
> themselves in a well thought out and clear way. It just has to be used
> correctly (and I'm not insinuating I'm great at that).
>
> I'm not sure who Farjad is; is this a serious proposal or "just
> something someone said"? I feel religious about PostgreSQL as it really
> has changed how I view databases in general (and you know what they say
> about converts). Not that I matter, but I would feel a huge blow if I
> could no longer tell people to use it.
>
> Jim
>
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