From: | Melvin Davidson <melvin6925(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | John McKown <john(dot)archie(dot)mckown(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>, Szymon Lipiński <mabewlun(at)gmail(dot)com>, Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)gmail(dot)com>, dandl <david(at)andl(dot)org>, pgsql-general <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Thoughts on "Love Your Database" |
Date: | 2016-05-04 13:44:22 |
Message-ID: | CANu8Fixf7zWduuqhad8uLxStgu+RSGbk-k-ctEyee_B9f2p_nw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 9:25 AM, John McKown <john(dot)archie(dot)mckown(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>
> wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> The sensible way is to do it as John wrote - to restrict access rights
>> to everyone except admin to calling functions only. That way the
>> functions are written by the people who are paid to understand the
>> business rules and the data behind it, and the application developers
>> can ask those experts to do the heavy lifting for them. Having to
>> persuade management that they should no longer be able to connect the
>> database to MS Access and make changes that way will usually put an
>> end to that pure model, though. :)
>>
>
> Allowing PHBs direct access to company data is a nasty thing. They
> become like some users who "know Excel". They are now just as knowledgeable
> as someone who's been doing this for years. I've actually heard one say
> something akin to: "Damn it, I can write Excel formulas. I know very well
> that an new function on the web site could be written in less than a day,
> if you'd just get off you a$$ and do it."
>
>
>
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> The unfacts, did we have them, are too imprecisely few to warrant our
> certitude.
>
> Maranatha! <><
> John McKown
>
>What might I cover that I haven't mentioned?
Well, I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons Web Developers do not use SQL
is because they do not know what is in the database. Perhaps a sections
that teaches them how to list the tables and columns
from the INFORMATION_SCHEMA would be a good start.
--
*Melvin Davidson*
I reserve the right to fantasize. Whether or not you
wish to share my fantasy is entirely up to you.
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