From: | Simon Riggs <simon(dot)riggs(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Pruning never visible changes |
Date: | 2022-09-17 06:46:58 |
Message-ID: | CANbhV-FzVvxkF1wZzanybLAR2W0F3yLOMs+CL8UQPrHTgfR9KA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 18:37, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>
> Simon Riggs <simon(dot)riggs(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
> > On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 15:26, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >> You cannot
> >> do that, at least not without checking that the originating
> >> transaction has no snapshots that could see the older row version.
>
> > I'm saying this is possible only AFTER the end of the originating
> > xact, so there are no issues with additional snapshots.
>
> I see, so the point is just that we can prune even if the originating
> xact hasn't yet passed the global xmin horizon. I agree that's safe,
> but will it fire often enough to be worth the trouble?
It is an edge case with limited utility, I agree, which is why I
looked for a cheap test (xmin == xmax only).
This additional test is also valid, but too expensive to apply:
TransactionIdGetTopmostTranactionId(xmax) ==
TransactionIdGetTopmostTranactionId(xmin)
> Also, why
> does it need to be restricted to certain shapes of HOT chains ---
> that is, why can't we do exactly what we'd do if the xact *were*
> past the xmin horizon?
I thought it important to maintain the integrity of the HOT chain, in
that the xmax of one tuple version matches the xmin of the next. So
pruning only from the root of the chain allows us to maintain that
validity check.
I'm on the fence myself, which is why I didn't post it immediately I
had written it.
If not, it would be useful to add a note in comments to the code to
explain why we don't do this.
--
Simon Riggs http://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
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