Re: A Modest Upgrade Proposal

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: A Modest Upgrade Proposal
Date: 2016-07-08 01:17:34
Message-ID: CANP8+jL4SVd3Var1ofZMhEmnC-=bMqM8rYzDTgiy_qJVMbvtBQ@mail.gmail.com
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On 8 July 2016 at 01:47, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:

> It is true that something like pg_logical doesn't suffer from those three
> things but it does suffer from others:
>
> * No DDL - Agreed, not "required" but certainly a very nice
> feature.
>
> * Lack of simplicity
>
> Users, like simple. It is one of the key reasons there is a migration to
> the cloud, simplicity. Everything from scaling, to pricing, to provisioning
> etc...
>

Well, you can't run DDL during pg_upgrade either. I've never seen a
solution that supported that, and if it did, it would certainly violate the
"simple" rule you advocate.

Simplicity is key, I agree. But that's just a user interface feature, not a
comment on what's underneath the covers. pg_upgrade is not simple and is
never likely to be so, under the covers.

Anyway, I'm cool if you don't want to use it, for while or never. Options
are good.

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