Re: Vertica targeting PostgreSQL users

On 20 November 2017 at 19:07, Shane Ambler <pgsql(at)sheeky(dot)biz> wrote:
> On 21/11/2017 07:58, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> On 11/20/2017 01:23 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
>>>
>>> Josh,
>>>
>>> I believe you just made up "fake news" about 2ndQuadrant.
>>>
>>> Please explain your source of this information, or retract and
>>> apologise now.
>>
>> If you read the email I believe the source is clear. If the source is
>> incorrect or I am misunderstanding what 2Q is doing, please feel free to
>> clear it up.
>
> Josh,
> I think that 2ndQPostgres isn't as closed as you think it is. It appears
> to be a custom postgresql build, which has 2Q's new development features
> they plan to get merged into the main development. So it provides early
> access to new features that aren't in the community postgresql *yet*
>
> While the code doesn't appear to be easily accessible, 2ndqpostgres
> looks to be a binary build that combines the other projects which
> (mostly?) have github repos.
>
> On the 2ndqpostgres page it states -
>> No lock-in. 2ndQPostgres allows you the ability to move between community
>> PostgreSQL and 2ndQPostgres, and back again just by replacing the
>> binaries and restarting the server from a clean shutdown
>
>> Our customers are able to utilize cutting-edge features while the
>> community acceptance process continues at its own pace.
>
> By maintaining a binary compatible data storage, they aren't locking you
> into there product. Of course any development using new features will
> need adjusting if you go back to the community edition.
>
> This also helps by getting more testing before the features are added to
> the main development.
>
> Simon - is that correct?

Thanks Shane, that appears correct.

And on the main point of contention: 2ndQuadrant is not migrating
users to closed versions "as soon as possible", it is simply an extra
service that customers may choose to utilize if they wish to do so
because of issues they experience in a current supported version.

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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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