From: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Superowners |
Date: | 2017-02-02 10:30:54 |
Message-ID: | CANP8+jJ8VDDo-PmxL8nQEM14fW0e0Xkzf9HOP3ZGdNkdcNM97A@mail.gmail.com |
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On 30 January 2017 at 16:34, Peter Eisentraut
<peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On 1/30/17 9:04 AM, Simon Riggs wrote:
>> all I want in this release is
>> super-ownership.
>
> What exactly is super-ownership, and what problems does it solve?
The problem is that there is no easy way for a DBA to have privs on
multiple sets of objects, so there is a request for superuser in many
cases. Superuser is too strong for most situations, so we are stuck.
We need some middle ground where a single user can manage many "normal
application objects" (tables, views, sequences, matviews, functions,
indexes, triggers) without problem, while not compromising other areas
that require higher security.
Probably more than 50% of PostgreSQL installs now use services that
block superuser accounts, so the majority of PostgreSQL users are
affected by these problems.
The permissions desirable for logical replication are a good example
of this, but not in any sense the only issue.
My hope is that we release v10 with a permissions model that allows
logical replication to be realistically usable when superuser is not
available. This is not a new requirement, but the privilege aspect of
the logical replication has been pushed back. While thinking about
other problems of access control I've rethought this so I now see the
wider problem and would like to solve that rather than just focus on
the needs of logical replication.
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Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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