Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode
Date: 2018-11-27 16:09:03
Message-ID: CANP8+j+_oQpP16RjYDjLAQ_cSCpePkbMQS-BJoTcmG2mW4kjqA@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 14:45, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> * Michael Paquier (michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz) wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 02:21:49PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > On 27/11/2018 04:46, Andres Freund wrote:
> > >> That was my gut reaction as well, but I think David's argument about
> > >> existing scripts / workflows being broken due the the recovery.conf
> > >> is a good reason to be more aggressive here.
> > >
> > > But backup scripts are not affected by the recovery.conf changes.
> >
> > In any of my own backup scripts (yeah!), I don't have any dependency to
> > that either. Or perhaps pgBackRest has a dependency in this area?
>
> If you don't consider your recovery scripts and your backup scripts to
> be related then I've really got to wonder how you're regularly testing
> your backups to make sure that they're actually valid.
>
> If you aren't regularly testing your backups then I've got little
> sympathy.
>
> To be clear, pgbackrest doesn't have any dependency here- but it, like
> all of the other 3rd party backup solutions and any restore solution
> that a user has come up with, are going to have to be changed to deal
> with the changes in how recovery works, so this is a good time to make
> these changes.
>

If those tools are updated and the changes all work, that will be good.

That isn't the same thing as an argument to remove things in this release.

I propose waiting until next release.

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