Re: [pgsql-www] Re: [pgsql-www] Re: Introducing 2UDA, 2ndQuadrant’s Unified Data Analytics

On 11 November 2015 at 16:40, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> wrote:
> > On 11/11/15 3:56 AM, Umair Shahid wrote:
> >> Thanks Magnus. The software catalogue is aimed at associated software.
> >> 2UDA is a new distribution of PostgreSQL, aiming to expand and widen the
> >> number of people interested in downloading PostgreSQL. Given that goal,
> >> we would like to see 2UDA listed on the downloads page under Core/ 3rd
> >> Party, not in the catalogue. Can you help?
> >
> > There is obviously some room for interpretation here. But I think
> > something that is listed as a PostgreSQL distribution should track
> > PostgreSQL releases in schedule and versioning. For example, I should
> > be able to see, where is the latest PostgreSQL 9.4 release of this or
> > that distribution. I can do that for the listed Live CD and BigSQL
> > distributions, for example. However, by that standard, the Bitnami and
> > Turnkey listings should be removed. I have no idea without digging very
> > deep what version of PostgreSQL they are shipping and how they are
> > updating it. Just bundling some random version of PostgreSQL with some
> > other software and setup scripts and calling it MyProduct 1.5 doesn't
> > make it a PostgreSQL distribution. There could very well be a need for
> > a new category in the software catalog called "PostgreSQL integrated
> > software bundles" or something like that.
>
> The previous criteria we've used is that packages listed in the
> PostgreSQL Core Distribution section are a) "core PostgreSQL", e.g.
> community PostgreSQL, perhaps with one or more of the surrounding
> projects (pgAdmin, PostGIS, drivers etc), and b) strictly follow the
> PostgreSQL release schedule and support lifecycle.
>
> Other packages in the "3rd party distributions" are subject to less
> stringent criteria; e.g. they are more specialised in the software
> they bundle (e.g BigSQL) - but still include community PostgreSQL -
> and don't necessarily follow the release schedule and support
> lifecycle. I believe this is the appropriate section for 2UDA, if
> folks think it should be included.
>

Perhaps I can provide some context here.

2UDA installs PostgreSQL 9.5, but no earlier version. It installs with
Orange, a data mining tool that has significant architectural modifications
to make it work very well with PostgreSQL on large databases, and
PostgreSQL 9.5+ specifically. As a result, no earlier versions are
supported/supportable.

The work is the output of the AXLE project, which has received funding from
the European Union’s Seventh Framework Programme for research,
technological development and demonstration under grant agreement no
FP7-318633. http://axleproject.eu

I am personally responsible for the delivery of the AXLE project, as
Technical Coordinator, though the project brings together many other
companies as partners. As a result of my close personal involvement, I can
confirm that the EU is very much behind PostgreSQL, as well as other open
source projects. I hope we can agree it's a good thing to publish one of
the project's deliverables here. Other deliverables are already committed
into 9.4 - 9.6, with more to come later.

2ndQuadrant has committed to strictly following the PostgreSQL release
schedule and support lifecycle, even after the end of the AXLE project.
Specifically, I mean that 9.5 version will be supported for 5 years, and
later versions will also be supported when available, also for 5 years.

--
Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
<http://www.2ndquadrant.com/>
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services