Re: Proposals for EXPLAIN: rename ANALYZE to EXECUTE and extend VERBOSE

From: Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Proposals for EXPLAIN: rename ANALYZE to EXECUTE and extend VERBOSE
Date: 2024-11-05 18:19:25
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 10:16 AM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > 1) EXPLAIN ANALYZE Is sometimes very confusing (because there is
> ANALYZE).
> > Let's rename it to EXPLAIN EXECUTE?
>
> This has got far too many years of history to be renamed now.
>

This is a really, really strange argument. Postgres keeps receiving new
audiences at larger and larger scale. And they are confused.

It's better late than never. I didn't believe we would have "quit" working
in psql.

>
> > 2) VERBOSE doesn't include BUFFERS, and doesn't include SETTINGS; it
> might
> > be also confusing sometimes. Let's include them so VERBOSE would be
> really
> > verbose?
>
> This is not likely to fly for compatibility reasons.
>

Can you elaborate?

>
> > 3) small thing about grammar: allow omitting parentheses, so EXPLAIN
> > EXECUTE VERBOSE would work.
>
> The reason for the parens is that the other way would require reserving
> all these options as keywords.
>

turns out, EXPLAIN ANALYZE VERBOSE already working (it's just not as
verbose as one might expect_:

test=# explain analyze verbose select;
QUERY PLAN
------------------------------------------
Result (cost=0.00..0.01 rows=1 width=0)
(1 row)

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