From: | Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Michael Banck <michael(dot)banck(at)credativ(dot)de>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: should we enable log_checkpoints out of the box? |
Date: | 2021-11-03 01:34:37 |
Message-ID: | CANNMO+JWHRd+7jEv9gf0wPhiC8xaxuzdVHqB1C5CdkEisgKrug@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 5:02 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> I'm still of the position that the default ought to be that a
> normally-functioning server generates no ongoing log output.
> Only people who have got Nagios watching their logs, or some
> such setup, are going to want anything different. And that is
> a minority use-case. There are going to be way more people
> bitching because their postmaster log overflowed their disk
> than there will be people who are happier because you made
> such output the default. (Don't forget that our default
> logging setup does not rotate the logs.)
>
Is it known how many new Postgres installations are from
popular packages (that have log rotation enabled) compared
to custom-built and managed in their own way?
If people do not use packages these days, they should take
care of themselves – it includes log rotation and, for example,
autostart. The same people who might complain of overflowed
disks should already be complaining about Postgres not surviving
machine restarts, right?
Nik
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