From: | Nazir Bilal Yavuz <byavuz81(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com" <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Show WAL write and fsync stats in pg_stat_io |
Date: | 2023-12-26 12:35:52 |
Message-ID: | CAN55FZ2J9+Un3fXHZfpBdQQ1PfNkzW8UL9bD6MFX6_=iTMEoBQ@mail.gmail.com |
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Hi,
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 13:10, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:27:16AM +0300, Nazir Bilal Yavuz wrote:
> > Maybe it is better to create a pg_stat_io_wal view like you said
> > before. We could remove unused columns and add op_bytes for each
> > writes and reads. Also, we can track both the number of bytes and the
> > number of the operations. This doesn't fully solve the problem but it
> > will be easier to modify it to meet our needs.
>
> I am not sure while the whole point of the exercise is to have all the
> I/O related data in a single view. Something that I've also found a
> bit disturbing yesterday while looking at your patch is the fact that
> the operation size is guessed from the context and object type when
> querying the view because now everything is tied to BLCKSZ. This
> patch extends it with two more operation sizes, and there are even
> cases where it may be a variable. Could it be a better option to
> extend pgstat_count_io_op_time() so as callers can themselves give the
> size of the operation?
Do you mean removing the op_bytes column and tracking the number of
bytes in reads, writes, and extends? If so, that makes sense to me but
I don't want to remove the number of operations; I believe that has a
value too. We can extend the pgstat_count_io_op_time() so it can both
track the number of bytes and the number of operations.
Also, it is not directly related to this patch but vectored IO [1] is
coming soon; so the number of operations could be wrong since vectored
IO could merge a couple of operations.
>
> The whole patch is kind of itself complicated enough, so I'd be OK to
> discard the case of the WAL receiver for now. Now, if we do so, the
> code stack of pgstat_io.c should handle WAL receivers as something
> entirely disabled until all the known issues are solved. There is
> still a lot of value in tracking WAL data associated to the WAL
> writer, normal backends and WAL senders.
Why can't we add comments and leave it as it is? Is it because this
could cause misunderstandings?
If we want to entirely disable it, we can add
if (MyBackendType == B_WAL_RECEIVER && io_object == IOOBJECT_WAL)
return;
to the top of the pgstat_count_io_op_time() since all IOOBJECT_WAL
calls are done by this function, then we can disable it at
pgstat_tracks_io_bktype().
--
Regards,
Nazir Bilal Yavuz
Microsoft
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